Comments on: Dismissed for being pregnant with third child http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/ ... you have been warned... Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:28:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: banana http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/comment-page-3/#comment-7377 banana Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:35:25 +0000 http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/#comment-7377 Oh, and Daniel, 'dismissed' for being pregnant with third child, basically says you're terminated (in a nicer way) =) Oh, and Daniel, ‘dismissed’ for being pregnant with third child, basically says you’re terminated (in a nicer way) =)

]]> By: banana http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/comment-page-2/#comment-7376 banana Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:26:59 +0000 http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/#comment-7376 Woah... You guys do have a lot to say. Coming from both men, I'm proud to say that they're still many of us who are able to defend us women! Haha! It's obvious Aandrew and alliedmartster are having a heated argument here, and they both do have some strong points. That's because there is no right or wrong in stating an opinion, it's just the way you perceive that opinion that makes it different. So as a person who always see two-sides of things, (heheh), I'd say they both have strong points which are equally logical in its own sense. However, I'd say I personally agree with Pelf, that the issue is WHY must that agreement be amended as such. Maybe its like what Andrew says, that MAS has their reasons to implement such terms. Fair enough, but as to answering WHY SHOULD there be such a reason, still does not make it justifiable enough. Cause by doing so, it only further proves that there is a strong discriminatory act placed upon women. this is obviously going against malaysia's principle and the ratification made in 1995 by Malaysia to prohibit gender discrimination in line with the United Nations Convention for the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (Cedaw). Anyway, again, thats only my view. You may not see things the way I see it, but that's the beauty egoistic nature of human mind. Hee. I know this issue is not that current, but reality is, discrimination is still around, and it would probably be forever debated. I'm so lucky to come upon this issue at the last minute, (I've been looking up on past 30-days issue only) cos now i have something to argue about for my HRM assignment! Hahah! Cheers. Woah… You guys do have a lot to say. Coming from both men, I’m proud to say that they’re still many of us who are able to defend us women! Haha! It’s obvious Aandrew and alliedmartster are having a heated argument here, and they both do have some strong points. That’s because there is no right or wrong in stating an opinion, it’s just the way you perceive that opinion that makes it different. So as a person who always see two-sides of things, (heheh), I’d say they both have strong points which are equally logical in its own sense.

However, I’d say I personally agree with Pelf, that the issue is WHY must that agreement be amended as such. Maybe its like what Andrew says, that MAS has their reasons to implement such terms. Fair enough, but as to answering WHY SHOULD there be such a reason, still does not make it justifiable enough.

Cause by doing so, it only further proves that there is a strong discriminatory act placed upon women. this is obviously going against malaysia’s principle and the ratification made in 1995 by Malaysia to prohibit gender discrimination in line with the United Nations Convention for the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (Cedaw).

Anyway, again, thats only my view. You may not see things the way I see it, but that’s the beauty egoistic nature of human mind. Hee. I know this issue is not that current, but reality is, discrimination is still around, and it would probably be forever debated. I’m so lucky to come upon this issue at the last minute, (I’ve been looking up on past 30-days issue only) cos now i have something to argue about for my HRM assignment! Hahah! Cheers.

]]> By: pelf-ism is contagious http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/comment-page-2/#comment-1842 pelf-ism is contagious Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:43:39 +0000 http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/#comment-1842 <strong>Six things...</strong> I was tagged by alliedmartster - remember the guy who left me comments on the issue of a MAS stewardess being dismissed because she was pregnant with her third child? Well, Tony maintains a blog dedicated to exposing the open discrimination by the Mala... Six things…

I was tagged by alliedmartster – remember the guy who left me comments on the issue of a MAS stewardess being dismissed because she was pregnant with her third child? Well, Tony maintains a blog dedicated to exposing the open discrimination by the Mala…

]]> By: alliedmartster http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/comment-page-2/#comment-1454 alliedmartster Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:31:32 +0000 http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/#comment-1454 Live with it. . .you say. Ok, I guess we should all accept it and live with it. Much like we live with corruption in our daily lives! It felt good when, my company vehicle was slapped with a 'show up' order to puspakom for a rear hood which was previously approved. On presenting the vehicle to puspakom, our driver was told that we will be slapped with a RM300 summons for our company, and RM300 to the driver for being the driver of an illegally modified vehicle. (despite having previous approval) As the Manager in charge, a runner approached our driver saying that this can be settled by a RM300 'kopi money'. I refuse to resort to this, and gave our driver an order to returnj with the summons. ..He came back to the office, and said that JPJ did not issue any summons. It felt good, I tell you, when I turned down the offer to bribe. Why am I telling you this? Because, here with this case it is not much different. I have to defend my wife and our position of 'not getting bullied' by a CA that was lop sided. One that does not subscribe to the country's laws. And having response from people like you spur me further. People that seem to brush aside the very issues that affect our community. FYI, the court case is up for mention, on the third day of chinese new year. And I wonder why? First they assigned this case to an Industrial court without a chairman (FYI, CHairman of a particular court is like a judge , an arbitrator..) It wasn't until 6 months later that she was appointed. And then they scheduled the case for mention on the third day of CNy...is it because perhaps there will be no reporters to cover it? Perhaps! Perhaps the issue of discriminating the fairer sex is in our culture...just perhaps. But definately, one thing is for sure, continue to ignore issues like this. There is a GREAT future for all of us. Live with it. . .you say. Ok, I guess we should all accept it and live with it. Much like we live with corruption in our daily lives! It felt good when, my company vehicle was slapped with a ‘show up’ order to puspakom for a rear hood which was previously approved. On presenting the vehicle to puspakom, our driver was told that we will be slapped with a RM300 summons for our company, and RM300 to the driver for being the driver of an illegally modified vehicle. (despite having previous approval)
As the Manager in charge, a runner approached our driver saying that this can be settled by a RM300 ‘kopi money’. I refuse to resort to this, and gave our driver an order to returnj with the summons. ..He came back to the office, and said that JPJ did not issue any summons. It felt good, I tell you, when I turned down the offer to bribe.

Why am I telling you this? Because, here with this case it is not much different. I have to defend my wife and our position of ‘not getting bullied’ by a CA that was lop sided. One that does not subscribe to the country’s laws. And having response from people like you spur me further. People that seem to brush aside the very issues that affect our community. FYI, the court case is up for mention, on the third day of chinese new year. And I wonder why? First they assigned this case to an Industrial court without a chairman (FYI, CHairman of a particular court is like a judge , an arbitrator..) It wasn’t until 6 months later that she was appointed. And then they scheduled the case for mention on the third day of CNy…is it because perhaps there will be no reporters to cover it? Perhaps! Perhaps the issue of discriminating the fairer sex is in our culture…just perhaps. But definately, one thing is for sure, continue to ignore issues like this. There is a GREAT future for all of us.

]]> By: Bengbeng http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/comment-page-2/#comment-1448 Bengbeng Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:12:52 +0000 http://chenpn.com/2006/10/10/dismissed-for-being-pregnant-with-third-child/#comment-1448 fair or unfair it is already agreed upon in the collective agreement. either amend it or live with it. <strong>pelf: I did not raise the "fair or unfair" question. I raised the "why" question.</strong> fair or unfair it is already agreed upon in the collective agreement. either amend it or live with it.

pelf: I did not raise the “fair or unfair” question. I raised the “why” question.

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